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		<title>Comment on US Election by Daniel Ritchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I listened to this sermon on Sabbath night; it is heartily recommended.  I think the errors of our friends flow out of two serious deficiencies within American Calvinism:

1) Failure to accept the establishment principle as it was originally confessed.

2) Failure to acknowledge that the Pope of Rome is THE antichrist.

As a result of the first, they adopt positions which are wholly at odds with Reformed orthodoxy concerning the civil magistrate, while all the time thinking they are upholding the Reformed position.  This goes back to the initial compromise with the Enlightenment and the Constitution.  More recently, owing to the influence of Neo-Calvinism/Kuyperianism they do not understand the two-kingdoms, and so they assume that the magistrate caring for true religion is a violation of &quot;sphere-sovereignty&quot;.  Hence it should not come as a surprise that they take this notion to its logical conclusion and advocate voting for an antichrist to be their supreme magistrate.  After all, if the magistrate is not bound to nourish true religion, then there can be no logical objection to voting for an idolater.

As a result of the second, &quot;Reformed&quot; Christians in the United States tend to see evil in overwhelmingly materialistic terms (which, ironically, is strangely similar to a Marxist definition of evil).  They fail to realise that our greatest enemy is false Christianity, especially that embodied in the Papacy.  When someone thinks that the antichrist is &quot;big government&quot;, a politician, or some middle-eastern ruler, then it should not surprise us when they go soft on spurious forms of Christianity such as Mormonism.  Instead of worrying about the idolatry of the Mormons, the focus is all on abortion and homosexuality or other second-table issues (failing to recognise that our idolatry is the root of these second-table offences).  Moreover, how exactly can you be Reformed without believing that the Pope is the antichrist?  What are we &quot;Reformed&quot; from?  Popery and Romanism.

The compromise we are seeing all around us should make us thankful not only for political dissent, but also for the original Westminster Confession.  It should also remind us of the practical dangers of tinkering with such tried and tested standards.  Ideas have consequences; if this election does not demonstrate that is true, then nothing does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to this sermon on Sabbath night; it is heartily recommended.  I think the errors of our friends flow out of two serious deficiencies within American Calvinism:</p>
<p>1) Failure to accept the establishment principle as it was originally confessed.</p>
<p>2) Failure to acknowledge that the Pope of Rome is THE antichrist.</p>
<p>As a result of the first, they adopt positions which are wholly at odds with Reformed orthodoxy concerning the civil magistrate, while all the time thinking they are upholding the Reformed position.  This goes back to the initial compromise with the Enlightenment and the Constitution.  More recently, owing to the influence of Neo-Calvinism/Kuyperianism they do not understand the two-kingdoms, and so they assume that the magistrate caring for true religion is a violation of &#8220;sphere-sovereignty&#8221;.  Hence it should not come as a surprise that they take this notion to its logical conclusion and advocate voting for an antichrist to be their supreme magistrate.  After all, if the magistrate is not bound to nourish true religion, then there can be no logical objection to voting for an idolater.</p>
<p>As a result of the second, &#8220;Reformed&#8221; Christians in the United States tend to see evil in overwhelmingly materialistic terms (which, ironically, is strangely similar to a Marxist definition of evil).  They fail to realise that our greatest enemy is false Christianity, especially that embodied in the Papacy.  When someone thinks that the antichrist is &#8220;big government&#8221;, a politician, or some middle-eastern ruler, then it should not surprise us when they go soft on spurious forms of Christianity such as Mormonism.  Instead of worrying about the idolatry of the Mormons, the focus is all on abortion and homosexuality or other second-table issues (failing to recognise that our idolatry is the root of these second-table offences).  Moreover, how exactly can you be Reformed without believing that the Pope is the antichrist?  What are we &#8220;Reformed&#8221; from?  Popery and Romanism.</p>
<p>The compromise we are seeing all around us should make us thankful not only for political dissent, but also for the original Westminster Confession.  It should also remind us of the practical dangers of tinkering with such tried and tested standards.  Ideas have consequences; if this election does not demonstrate that is true, then nothing does.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scotland: A Covenanted Land? by Daniel Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.shallwesingasongforyou.co.uk/2012/09/scotland-a-covenanted-land/#comment-4521</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just came across something which is relevant to a point that the Revd Stewart raised during this sermon in a PhD thesis I am reading for an article on Irish Covenanters and American slavery:

&quot;Covenanters in America believed that the obligations of the covenants transcended national boundaries as well, and that their terms were applicable even in the United States.&quot;

Emily M. Robinson, ‘Immigrant Covenanters: Religious and Political Identity from Scotland to America’ (Ph.D. thesis, University of California, 2004), p. 254.

Not sure what primary sources substantiate this (this comment occurs in an introduction to a chapter), but I suspect Samuel B. Wylie&#039;s book on descending obligation might address it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across something which is relevant to a point that the Revd Stewart raised during this sermon in a PhD thesis I am reading for an article on Irish Covenanters and American slavery:</p>
<p>&#8220;Covenanters in America believed that the obligations of the covenants transcended national boundaries as well, and that their terms were applicable even in the United States.&#8221;</p>
<p>Emily M. Robinson, ‘Immigrant Covenanters: Religious and Political Identity from Scotland to America’ (Ph.D. thesis, University of California, 2004), p. 254.</p>
<p>Not sure what primary sources substantiate this (this comment occurs in an introduction to a chapter), but I suspect Samuel B. Wylie&#8217;s book on descending obligation might address it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Senior Camp 2012 audio by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andy, I&#039;ve added the titles to the post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andy, I&#8217;ve added the titles to the post</p>
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		<title>Comment on Senior Camp 2012 audio by Andy lytle</title>
		<link>http://www.shallwesingasongforyou.co.uk/2012/09/senior-camp-2012-audio/#comment-4498</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy lytle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 05:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God’s People with God’s Mission
Isaiah –A Vision for Mission – Isaiah 6
Jesus – Compassionate response in Mission – Matthew 9:35-38
Moses – Excuses in mission - Exodus 3 &amp; 4 
Jonathan – Daring submission in mission – 1 Samuel 14
Paul – Unashamed in Mission – Romans 1:13-17
Jesus’ disciples – Living Mission – Matthew 5:13-16]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God’s People with God’s Mission<br />
Isaiah –A Vision for Mission – Isaiah 6<br />
Jesus – Compassionate response in Mission – Matthew 9:35-38<br />
Moses – Excuses in mission &#8211; Exodus 3 &amp; 4<br />
Jonathan – Daring submission in mission – 1 Samuel 14<br />
Paul – Unashamed in Mission – Romans 1:13-17<br />
Jesus’ disciples – Living Mission – Matthew 5:13-16</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the Queen by Daniel Ritchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The synod&#039;s letter was very good, and definitely written in the right spirit.  Samuel Simms has a good section on the importance of national leaders to social reform in his pamphlet, &quot;The Bible, the church, and terms of communion&quot;.  This statement summarises his position: &quot;I think it will hold true, as a rule, that we may not look for the general Christianizing of the people but through the medium of a government themselves Christian.&quot;  It is fashionable to hear people discourage a &quot;top-down&quot; approach, yet God looked favourably upon godliness from the top-down in the days of David, Solomon, Hezekiah, Asa, Josiah, et al.

At the same time, we cannot exhort kings to &quot;be instructed&quot; when we ourselves are not overly clear on what exactly covenanting principles entail.  I am not claiming the moral high-ground here, as I had to renounce my small-government sins after I found out that they were unconfessional and contrary to the covenants (in addition to being contrary to the Bible, of course).  However, I only found this out as a result of my own research - nobody was able to explain to me WHY this was wrong (not merely assert it was wrong without providing cogent reasons).  Moreover, how are we going to tell rulers to heed what the Bible says when most of our members vote for candidates who ignore what the scriptures say concerning civil government?  If their abandonment of the word of God is so grievous to us, then why do we continue to vote for them?  Furthermore, how can those who vote for such candidates escape ecclesiastical sanctions - especially as we argue that the people who they are voting for are provoking the wrath of God by their actions.  It seems to me that a bit more reflection on the Covenanter doctrines of political dissent and close communion is in order.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The synod&#8217;s letter was very good, and definitely written in the right spirit.  Samuel Simms has a good section on the importance of national leaders to social reform in his pamphlet, &#8220;The Bible, the church, and terms of communion&#8221;.  This statement summarises his position: &#8220;I think it will hold true, as a rule, that we may not look for the general Christianizing of the people but through the medium of a government themselves Christian.&#8221;  It is fashionable to hear people discourage a &#8220;top-down&#8221; approach, yet God looked favourably upon godliness from the top-down in the days of David, Solomon, Hezekiah, Asa, Josiah, et al.</p>
<p>At the same time, we cannot exhort kings to &#8220;be instructed&#8221; when we ourselves are not overly clear on what exactly covenanting principles entail.  I am not claiming the moral high-ground here, as I had to renounce my small-government sins after I found out that they were unconfessional and contrary to the covenants (in addition to being contrary to the Bible, of course).  However, I only found this out as a result of my own research &#8211; nobody was able to explain to me WHY this was wrong (not merely assert it was wrong without providing cogent reasons).  Moreover, how are we going to tell rulers to heed what the Bible says when most of our members vote for candidates who ignore what the scriptures say concerning civil government?  If their abandonment of the word of God is so grievous to us, then why do we continue to vote for them?  Furthermore, how can those who vote for such candidates escape ecclesiastical sanctions &#8211; especially as we argue that the people who they are voting for are provoking the wrath of God by their actions.  It seems to me that a bit more reflection on the Covenanter doctrines of political dissent and close communion is in order.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Share of the Spoils leaves Ministers more satisfied in Annual Showdown by Slowel</title>
		<link>http://www.shallwesingasongforyou.co.uk/2012/02/share-of-the-spoils-leaves-ministers-more-satisfied-in-annual-showdown/#comment-4406</link>
		<dc:creator>Slowel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like you to know that my speed at producing match reports has greatly increased.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like you to know that my speed at producing match reports has greatly increased.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Share of the Spoils leaves Ministers more satisfied in Annual Showdown by Charlie Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.shallwesingasongforyou.co.uk/2012/02/share-of-the-spoils-leaves-ministers-more-satisfied-in-annual-showdown/#comment-4403</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Slowing the pace is a traditional tactic of the Ministers, yet perhaps the strangest incident of the first half was Joel’s warning for time wasting in the opening 10 minutes&quot;.

Poor ref.  What a futile action.  If only he&#039;d known that absolutely nothing in this world can speed Slowel up at anything!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Slowing the pace is a traditional tactic of the Ministers, yet perhaps the strangest incident of the first half was Joel’s warning for time wasting in the opening 10 minutes&#8221;.</p>
<p>Poor ref.  What a futile action.  If only he&#8217;d known that absolutely nothing in this world can speed Slowel up at anything!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Share of the Spoils leaves Ministers more satisfied in Annual Showdown by Paul Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.shallwesingasongforyou.co.uk/2012/02/share-of-the-spoils-leaves-ministers-more-satisfied-in-annual-showdown/#comment-4402</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;.... were joined by the 2011 RTC intake (except Pual who was working on his Hebrew)&quot;

Pual? Was that a typo, a Freudian slip, or a little joke?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;. were joined by the 2011 RTC intake (except Pual who was working on his Hebrew)&#8221;</p>
<p>Pual? Was that a typo, a Freudian slip, or a little joke?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Battle Lines Drawn for Annual Epic by Charlie Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hoots mon!  There&#039;s probably still time for me tay make it fer the fitba an&#039; all, if I left the noo.

Hope ye&#039;s cope rightly without Fabien.  Just stick that other big yin in nets.  

Oop the meenisters!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoots mon!  There&#8217;s probably still time for me tay make it fer the fitba an&#8217; all, if I left the noo.</p>
<p>Hope ye&#8217;s cope rightly without Fabien.  Just stick that other big yin in nets.  </p>
<p>Oop the meenisters!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Battle Lines Drawn for Annual Epic by Fabien Barthez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabien Barthez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[zer eeez steel time fore me tooo caltch ze plane to ze doooblain and zen ze buuus to play in ze game. J&#039;aime jouer au foot après le dîner avec mes frères dans le jardin public. Allez les Pasteurs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zer eeez steel time fore me tooo caltch ze plane to ze doooblain and zen ze buuus to play in ze game. J&#8217;aime jouer au foot après le dîner avec mes frères dans le jardin public. Allez les Pasteurs!</p>
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